do get back xp

I just installed Vista build 5384... Seems OK, but I'm not really impressed.
One item I just noticed is that I don't get any kind of boot manager when I start my PC. I still have my XP partition but I can't see any way to boot it.
How can I get the Vista boot menu to come up so I can get back to my old system?!?

It should be available under Legacy boot manage. When you start your PC, the boot manager will display an entry called "Earlier versions of Windows", use your up arrow on your keyboard to select it, press Enter and it should reveal Windows XP > press Enter and it will boot.
Did you install Vista on a separate partition? If you did, the procedure I described should be available. If you chose to upgrade from XP, then, XP is goner and you will have to reinstall it. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Noozer" wrote in message

I just installed Vista build 5384... Seems OK, but I'm not really impressed.
One item I just noticed is that I don't get any kind of boot manager when I start my PC. I still have my XP partition but I can't see any way to boot it.
How can I get the Vista boot menu to come up so I can get back to my old system?!?

"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

It should be available under Legacy boot manage. When you start your PC, the boot manager will display an entry called "Earlier versions of Windows", use your up arrow on your keyboard to select it, press Enter and it should reveal Windows XP > press Enter and it will boot.

Problem is, there is no boot manager. I start the PC, see the blank Vista bootup screen, them I'm in Vista.

Did you install Vista on a separate partition? If you did, the procedure I described should be available. If you chose to upgrade from XP, then, XP is goner and you will have to reinstall it.

I put Vista in it's own partition. My XP partition is still there (as drive D:)

That depends on your hard disk and partition configuration. Can you post more details on how your PC is configured? Physical disks, partitions, etc?
You should see a Boot Manager, so if you don't something didn't go as expected.
Jeff Warren
"Noozer" wrote in message

I just installed Vista build 5384... Seems OK, but I'm not really impressed.
One item I just noticed is that I don't get any kind of boot manager when I start my PC. I still have my XP partition but I can't see any way to boot it.
How can I get the Vista boot menu to come up so I can get back to my old system?!?

"Jeff Warren" wrote in message

That depends on your hard disk and partition configuration. Can you post more details on how your PC is configured? Physical disks, partitions, etc?
You should see a Boot Manager, so if you don't something didn't go as expected.

Single 160gig PATA hard drive in this PC. Partitions are as follows (according to Disk Manager) :
- 61gig Windows XP (D:) in a logical partition, NTFS format - 25gig Vista (C:) in a primary partition, NTFS format - 25gig Unknown partition (Mac OSX)
My order of installation was: - Windows XP - Mac OSX - Vista build 5365 - Vista build 5384, formatting the build 5365 partition from the installer.
I can still get to my XP drive from Vista, so I know that this partition isn't damaged.

Ooops, you should have put Vista on the logical partition, not the primary partition, thats why it got knocked out. The bootfiles for XP was written to the C: drive, those were wiped out when you installed Vista on C: drive which is the (System, Active) partition. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Noozer" wrote in message

"Jeff Warren" wrote in message That depends on your hard disk and partition configuration. Can you post more details on how your PC is configured? Physical disks, partitions, etc?
You should see a Boot Manager, so if you don't something didn't go as expected.
Single 160gig PATA hard drive in this PC. Partitions are as follows (according to Disk Manager) :
- 61gig Windows XP (D:) in a logical partition, NTFS format - 25gig Vista (C:) in a primary partition, NTFS format - 25gig Unknown partition (Mac OSX)
My order of installation was: - Windows XP - Mac OSX - Vista build 5365 - Vista build 5384, formatting the build 5365 partition from the installer.
I can still get to my XP drive from Vista, so I know that this partition isn't damaged.

"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

Ooops, you should have put Vista on the logical partition, not the primary partition, thats why it got knocked out. The bootfiles for XP was written to the C: drive, those were wiped out when you installed Vista on C: drive which is the (System, Active) partition.

But, when I installed XP, I did NOT specify it as a logical partition. Never had an issue with booting it. Not sure how it even became a logical partition, as I created and formatted the partition with the XP installer.
And... Build 5365 gave me the boot menu without any issue. I ran bootsect.exe on the Vista DVD from the recovery console to uninstall the Vista boot loader when I decided to install 5384. I had no problem getting into XP after doing so... Then I installed 5384.

I couldn't get it to work the way you had it it. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Noozer" wrote in message

"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Ooops, you should have put Vista on the logical partition, not the primary partition, thats why it got knocked out. The bootfiles for XP was written to the C: drive, those were wiped out when you installed Vista on C: drive which is the (System, Active) partition.
But, when I installed XP, I did NOT specify it as a logical partition. Never had an issue with booting it. Not sure how it even became a logical partition, as I created and formatted the partition with the XP installer.
And... Build 5365 gave me the boot menu without any issue. I ran bootsect.exe on the Vista DVD from the recovery console to uninstall the Vista boot loader when I decided to install 5384. I had no problem getting into XP after doing so... Then I installed 5384.

Noozer spewed out this bit, and i'll scatter a few bits myself

"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Ooops, you should have put Vista on the logical partition, not the primary partition, thats why it got knocked out. The bootfiles for XP was written to the C: drive, those were wiped out when you installed Vista on C: drive which is the (System, Active) partition.
But, when I installed XP, I did NOT specify it as a logical partition. Never had an issue with booting it. Not sure how it even became a logical partition, as I created and formatted the partition with the XP installer. And... Build 5365 gave me the boot menu without any issue. I ran bootsect.exe on the Vista DVD from the recovery console to uninstall the Vista boot loader when I decided to install 5384. I had no problem getting into XP after doing so... Then I installed 5384.

Boot from your XP cd, go to the recovery console and run 'fixmbr' and 'fixboot'. You should get XP back this way, but will/might loose Vista.
-- Mhzjunkie
1 PRINT "Windows XP ERROR" GOTO 1 END

"Mhzjunkie" wrote in message

Noozer spewed out this bit, and i'll scatter a few bits myself
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Ooops, you should have put Vista on the logical partition, not the primary partition, thats why it got knocked out. The bootfiles for XP was written to the C: drive, those were wiped out when you installed Vista on C: drive which is the (System, Active) partition.
But, when I installed XP, I did NOT specify it as a logical partition. Never had an issue with booting it. Not sure how it even became a logical partition, as I created and formatted the partition with the XP installer. And... Build 5365 gave me the boot menu without any issue. I ran bootsect.exe on the Vista DVD from the recovery console to uninstall the Vista boot loader when I decided to install 5384. I had no problem getting into XP after doing so... Then I installed 5384.
Boot from your XP cd, go to the recovery console and run 'fixmbr' and 'fixboot'. You should get XP back this way, but will/might loose Vista.

Ugh... That was fun.
Vista deleted the NTLDR, etc. files from the orignal C: drive. It probably also converted the partition to a Logical one (but don't ask how or why). I did run the "bootsect.exe" on the Vista DVD while inside the recovery console. This should have restored the C: drive to it's previous state.
I ended up formatting the Vista partition. Then I ghosted the XP partition to the now empty partition. Deleted the logical partition and created a primary partition. Ghosted from the previous ghosted partition, back to the new primary partition. Ran FIXMBR and FIXBOOT but still no NTLDR... Ended up copying the files needed from another XP machine.
Computer is booting and seems OK. Did have problems with Explorer just hanging after loading the desktop. Couldn't open icons or the Start menu. CAD would let me get into Task Manager, from which I could get to the Command Prompt. Couldn't browse here or it would just lock up as well.
Still can't figure out this error I'm seeing in the Event Manager as well... Guess I'm going to the XP newsgroup now. : )
Event Type: Error Event Source: Service Control Manager Event Category: None Event ID: 7023 Date: 2006-05-29 Time: 7:38:16 AM User: N/A Computer: MYPC Description: The Computer Browser service terminated with the following error: This operation returned because the timeout period expired.
For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

Hmm, you could have simply gone into the Startup options within Vista (System Properties > Advanced > Startup and Recovery) and established the timers for boot menu selection...
- naseru
"Noozer" wrote in message

"Mhzjunkie" wrote in message Noozer spewed out this bit, and i'll scatter a few bits myself
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Ooops, you should have put Vista on the logical partition, not the primary partition, thats why it got knocked out. The bootfiles for XP was written to the C: drive, those were wiped out when you installed Vista on C: drive which is the (System, Active) partition.
But, when I installed XP, I did NOT specify it as a logical partition. Never had an issue with booting it. Not sure how it even became a logical partition, as I created and formatted the partition with the XP installer. And... Build 5365 gave me the boot menu without any issue. I ran bootsect.exe on the Vista DVD from the recovery console to uninstall the Vista boot loader when I decided to install 5384. I had no problem getting into XP after doing so... Then I installed 5384.
Boot from your XP cd, go to the recovery console and run 'fixmbr' and 'fixboot'. You should get XP back this way, but will/might loose Vista.
Ugh... That was fun.
Vista deleted the NTLDR, etc. files from the orignal C: drive. It probably also converted the partition to a Logical one (but don't ask how or why). I did run the "bootsect.exe" on the Vista DVD while inside the recovery console. This should have restored the C: drive to it's previous state.
I ended up formatting the Vista partition. Then I ghosted the XP partition to the now empty partition. Deleted the logical partition and created a primary partition. Ghosted from the previous ghosted partition, back to the new primary partition. Ran FIXMBR and FIXBOOT but still no NTLDR... Ended up copying the files needed from another XP machine.
Computer is booting and seems OK. Did have problems with Explorer just hanging after loading the desktop. Couldn't open icons or the Start menu. CAD would let me get into Task Manager, from which I could get to the Command Prompt. Couldn't browse here or it would just lock up as well.
Still can't figure out this error I'm seeing in the Event Manager as well... Guess I'm going to the XP newsgroup now. : )
Event Type: Error Event Source: Service Control Manager Event Category: None Event ID: 7023 Date: 2006-05-29 Time: 7:38:16 AM User: N/A Computer: MYPC Description: The Computer Browser service terminated with the following error: This operation returned because the timeout period expired.
For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

"Naseru" wrote in message

Hmm, you could have simply gone into the Startup options within Vista (System Properties > Advanced > Startup and Recovery) and established the timers for boot menu selection...

Kinda hard to do once the Vista drive has been formatted.

I would use VistaBootPRO -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Noozer" wrote in message

"Naseru" wrote in message Hmm, you could have simply gone into the Startup options within Vista (System Properties > Advanced > Startup and Recovery) and established the timers for boot menu selection...
Kinda hard to do once the Vista drive has been formatted.

....and I would just not use Vista at all.
:)
Tried it for a few hours and just not worth the hassle of "tweaking" a usable interface. Couple that with the COMPLETE impossibility of booting any OS non-Windows OS once you install Vista and we just won't jump through the same hoops that IBM put us through with OS/2 2.0.
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

I would use VistaBootPRO
"Naseru" wrote in message Hmm, you could have simply gone into the Startup options within Vista (System Properties > Advanced > Startup and Recovery) and established the timers for boot menu selection...
Kinda hard to do once the Vista drive has been formatted.